Somebody has just asked me if I received COVID-19 vaccine before the outbreak of COVID-19.
I'm still not sure there's sufficient fediverse interest, and getting an ecosystem to move is tough. And there isn't enough leadership that seems bought in, and I don't feel like fighting it. Maybe it's still worth trying, but I've been focusing on new approaches.
The ATmosphere has more power concentration, but there is definitely more movement in it rn. But also they seem largely disinterested in what I have to say on this also.
So the right system hybridizes techniques from both, and adds some new ones, but I'm just not sure we can get there with either ecosystem right now. We'd have to see big buy-in from one or maybe both.
The fediverse correctly prioritized the ability to scale down and to have many co-equal participants in the system. I believe this is critically important. Directed delivery of messages is what makes this possible.
The ATmosphere correctly adopted content-addressed storage and decentralized identity, something I have been arguing that the fediverse needed since before ActivityPub finished standardization, but which by and large the fediverse developer ecosystem seemed uninterested in until recently. But nodes going down is a thing that is really stressful for many participants, including in choosing a node, or even daring to self host
It's possible to build a content-addressed system with directed delivery. I have been arguing towards that direction since 2017 https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rwot5-boston/blob/master/final-documents/activitypub-decentralized-distributed.md
- Fediverse: We care about scaling down and lots of full-participant nodes
- ATproto: We care about scaling up, a few root-participation nodes, many smaller fractionally participatory nodes
- Me (what people think I think): Fediverse rules ATproto drools
- Me (what I actually think): The right system has parts of both
We don’t have a specific plan in place for this right now.
Similarly, we still need to carefully work through the way that blocks affect an MLS group.
However, I know this is a high priority for Mastodon. In the last E2EE meeting (which you all should attend!) they raised this as a key issue for their implementation that needs to be addressed.
@halcy hooray! 🎉
@evan
I think Canadians have an opportunity here to further push more use of the Fediverse to Canadian Officials: it's still a large, international network, but Canadians can control the servers thet Canadians connect on, meaning it's not vulnerable to potential whims of some other country's spiraling government.
@wizzwizz4 Hmm, @benpate and @evan might know offhand if they're doing anything special here.
MLS doesn't do anything (IIRC), as the mechanism has to go a level higher. I know MIMI has been talking about it, but the specifics are not something I know offhand.