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@evan As I suspected, most people choose the "justice will not be served" options

@benpate @bengo @strypey @EUCommission @nlnet

When it comes to Conway's Law then, what do we have today in terms of alternative environment, here on fediverse?

If I squint my eyes so the details become vague, I see more or less a copy/paste of existing that we are all familiar with, and as forces it through our throat. BUT! Decentralized.. a great achievement. We can now build our own roads, instead of being forced to take the highway.

The observation that we "copy/pasted" may or may not be an indicator of the risk that Conway's Law does its work. I leave that as part of my call-for-reflection. Same holds for the risk of corporate capture, who can quickly pave over with asphalt any 'desire path' that became popular, and perhaps make it a toll road.

More interesting it gets when it comes to : dealing with tech externalities. See: social.coop/@smallcircles/1163

And : Go from to Sustainable open social systems.

@benpate @bengo

@strypey just mentions Conway's Law, and how it shapes and affects all that we do. The driving force is , which over time also shaped modern global as it stands today.

Question for grassroots environments that are able to healthily evolve and naturally grow into long-term sustainable ecosystems - in case of the able to support diverse and vibrant online culture, where people cocreate and participate in a value-based collaborative economy - is how based enabling can be designed to foster the right social dynamics that influence this emergence.

Or else we get US road network, emerged by the lobbying powers of Big Oil. Corporate capture in case of . Or traffic chaos and road jams, stifling .

My blog addresses how @EUCommission (via the great @nlnet ) encourages - in traffic terms - creation of infra building blocks. But not road vision, policies, enforcement. Lacks socio-cultural care.

@benpate @bengo

Interesting paper, thanks. I just made an analogy to how road networks evolve over time, and what that means for the environment. This against the backdrop of my long blog article about fediverse .

social.coop/@smallcircles/1164

Social experience design examines the ecosystem that emerges by the landscape and is determined by the shape of our that it must grown on. Think like organic moss, that is able to take a foothold in the nooks and crannies of slick aluminium roofs. is a forest.

An observation is that we generally severely underestimate the impact of "adding an extra online channel, so now we can be social remotely". This way of perceiving social totally misses how everything is different online, and at the same time that many things should / can be very similar to how we do offline for ages. Increasing social bandwidth on the wire.

coding.social/blog/reimagine-s

@strypey

Yes, this is all addressed in my blog post, including the points where there are the most major re-centralization risks of fediverse.

coding.social/blog/grassroots-

As for the overall situation you can compare with road traffic. Post-facto interop is something like "if my car fits through here, then that's my shortcut", and over time it becomes a busy crossroad point. Is it safe? No. Responsible? No, unsuspecting pedestrians are killed by cars speeding from unexpected directions? Is it efficient? Not at all, all traffic is stuck, everyone honking their horns. The law of the strongest rules supreme: Big SUV's and careless drivers have the advantage. Traffic is like this in some countries. People get used to it, and things become streamlined to an extent in this chaos. But it is far from optimal.

Now take the US as example. Totally car-optimized (app-centric). To the extent it isolates people even.

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