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I think it's also unlikely that the current ATproto developer community is going to disappear just because ActivityPub advocates point out that governance story on our ecosystem is much better, and the independence of our nodes is demonstrably higher.
@evan I agree wholeheartedly that network effects matter. But the the network should be on a series of technologies that enable choice and movemement between them, not a mandate around one solution when it's clear different shapes work for different people.
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One problem with network effect discussions is that we tend to assume that the people interested in a technology -- like distributed social networks -- would all be interested no matter what the platform or protocol is.
That's a naive assumption. If ATProto didn't exist, maybe some percentage of the current ATProto dev community would be building on ActivityPub, but probably not 100%.
@quillmatiq@mastodon.social @quillmatiq@threads.net @quillmatiq.com but there are still other networks -- the developer and technology ecosystems around both protocols.
Those get split, too, when there are multiple protocols. And they're harder to bridge. There is some knowledge and value that can be shared between networks, and other information that's much more specific.
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Bridging helps a lot here -- it joins the Atmosphere with the Fediverse, so that we are effectively on one people network. Thanks for providing that important service.
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William is talking about something really important: the network effect.
Having lots of small disconnected networks inhibits wider adoption.
Value in a communications network goes up by N^2. The value in two disconnected networks of equal size is (N^2 / 4) * 2, or half what the value would be if they interoperate.
Imagine being a coder but thinking there's no artistry to writing code. What an empty existence
You're telling people what your perfect protocol's world could look like. You should be listening. Listen more.
RE: https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos/116426227781017098
Again, I, among many others, am working on user agency, not top down mandates about what technology everyone should use. People, not platforms includes "not protocols".
If you're still having arguments about protocols in 2026, you've already fell behind. Listen to the people or they will not listen to you, because they weren't last year or the year before or the year before that.
and for the record i'm not talking about making code to create art like a game or something. i'm saying *the code itself* can be art. a perfectly constructed api, a framework that fits together just so, when code comes together in a beautiful harmony, *that is art*, it requires artistry to create!